Sociobiology

Eugenics as a Male project; or the Yamnaya method

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Valentina Vassilyev, Russian peasant, is alleged to hold the record for the most children ever produced by a “couple”. She had 69 children. By comparison, Genghis Khan is said to have fathered thousands of kids by his concubines and grape victims. Runner up Moulay Ismail of Morocco also produced over a thousand children.

Theoretically too, the average woman could pass on her genes to a maximum of perhaps 12 kids in a lifetime - whereas the average man could cause five times as many successful impregnations in a month! And with very little if any cost to his health.

It must be noted that fertility rates are not the topic of this post, the upper limit there is indeed decided by the average woman’s incubation capacity. Instead, this post is about eugenics, specifically it’s against the standard take where eugenics is supposedly achieved by causing more intelligent “couples” to have higher average fertility than less intelligent ones. The problem with this view is it appears to unreasonably exalt mediaeval marital norms where it should engage dispassionately with the evolutionary biology of a highly dimorphic, harem-building species. In my opinion, standard methods shy away without justification from making actual use of high IQ male reproductive potential - which is quite explosive.

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Leon Voss • edited
#17

impregnate all women of their race without discrimination, that’s 50 women for every man and 100 children for the average bvll. well under what he’s physically capable of but regardless boosting average IQ dramatically from 100 to 117.5 in one generation. (135+100 over 2 is 117.5)

One issue with this is now the population is highly inbred. Mutational load theory explains why inbreeding is so deleterious so quickly; everyone inherits the same mutations on both chromosome copies quite quickly, leading to serious issues. Without inbreeding, mutations are almost always heterozygotic.

There may also be issues with mixing with prole women. You would create a lot of midwits with the harem method. Midwits are annoying. How many prole women do you even want to have sex with? Have you seen the average pregnant woman?

Why population max anyway? Why not restrict those women to 0 or 1 child and have 6 children with an elf-woman?

Finally there are problems with selecting at all for cooperation abilities using the harem technique. Mating becomes negative sum warfare all the time like that. Look at species that act that way and look at all of the intelligent social species. Spot the differences.

Diler of Hosts ✠ • edited • reply to #17
#21

yeah, if a nation is ok with population collapse and with sterilising their own cattle/wombs/resources, monogamy is certainly good enough for eugenics. not being disrespectful btw, quite the opposite as i believe child-bearing women are a nation’s most valuable resource after strong men. but yeah complete trash is better off womb-shut regardless

A. Smithreply to #17
#41

The idea of ‘midwits’ as an intellectual in-between caste product of a kind of mental race-mixing is very funny. Smart man. Dumb woman. IQs meet in the middle in children, producing never before seen hybrid with IQ sitting in unnatural in-between zone.

Asukasimp1488reply to #17
#146

I believe that we should artificially engineer harsh darwinian conditions where only the elves can surivive, we would create controlled plagues, a fanatical eugenic religious justification for the mass deaths, ending of world food supply and only ensuring that modern technology is only available for the top 10% of whites and maybe asians. 10 COMMANDMENTS OF GUSTAVISISM

There is none but one Truth, nothing else other than the Truth

Eugenics is the only path towards a sustainable and maintainable future

There is a Cosmic hierarchy and every man must fulfill his purpose within it’s context

Higher men have a divine right to kill infidels and inferior peoples

Systems that promote individualism and equality must be torn apart and eradicated.

Science, specifically Socio-Biology, every man of learned intelligence must study greatly

Physical Health must be put first above all else.

Your racial group must be prioritized over any other loyalties

If you are a mutt, you must either die or marry into a group you’re dominant in

Women must be housewives and mothers, with rarely any exceptions Hyper-Eugenic Methods The 15 plagues of Israel Selective Breeding Embryo Selection State Sponsorship The Purge Ethno-States (Dark Elfia) World Ending Plagues and Viruses Cutting off Welfare and Charity Mass Beheadings Global Freezing Ending mass production of food Cooperative Competition Ultra-Natalism for High IQ populations Mandated National IQ Tests Ages 4-18 Creation of The Hyper Elites through Bio-Engineering Zareithianism: A religion that violently imposes Eugenic Virtue

Creation of a replacement for the marine corps (The Fallen Angel Corps) which enforces the above and fights in special operations ill repost

nerolireply to #146
#148

Mass embryo selection will never be a thing. Most of us would much rather conceive the natural way, even if the five-figure cost of IVF were completely subsidized; how are you going to stop us?

Diler of Hosts ✠ • edited • reply to #30
#45

That is modern dysgenia, if IQ always correlated negatively with fertility, we would never move past 85, or even 55

A. Smith
#42

The yamnaya killed people. What are you going to do? Wave around your MENSA results and wait for the women to form a line?

Svevlad
#54

That’s all fine and dandy, but you’re forgetting something rather important - what is in wokescold consultantocrat terminology roughly called “compliance”, and what I call “enforcement”.

How exactly are you going to enforce this sinister rapekrieg by the high-IQ elite genii? This works for chimpanzees and other apes where brute force is king - but the good ol’ rock-opposable thumb combo was the first great equalizer well before Sam Colt. Africans, burdened by random disease and whatnot, never really successfully went past this - and their reproductive model is essentially “first one to chuck a spear at the biggest and smartest guy gets all the women”. What I’m saying is, it’s physically impossible to apply this model in a modern society. Heck, it’s impossible to apply in even the most primitive technological society.

The Aryans didn’t do what they did by just waltzing in and taking everyone’s women - as a matter of fact their attempts to penetrate the Farmer societies were rather difficult, and many found themselves enslaved instead. It took a global catastrophe to collapse their societies into a giant murder orgy from Britain to the Balkans where all the men literally killed each other for the Yamnaya/Corded Ware to actually start their invasion, which was contingent not on them being bigger and stronger, but instead having technological and logistical superiority.

Any civilized, powerful society insisted on stringent regulations of sexual relations and formalization, with specific trends towards monogamy for a very good reason: having a bunch of incels around is generally not a very good thing and tends to result in a lot of revolting. The one that can satisfy the basic needs, which includes sexual needs, of the bulk of the population simply always wins against the one that doesn’t.

This doesn’t even cover the actual elephant in the room - the fact that eugenics as we think of it is essentially obsolete. Custom viruses were a thing since the Cold War. We have a pretty good knowledge of the human genome. A willing regime with the resources required could essentially ensure a solution that causes the global average IQ to rise to 200, if not more, deployable within 10 years, or less. It’s a question of, if you’ll excuse the term, balls.

You could create an asymptomatic, super-infectious virus that would deploy a DNA packet that would make every child of a carrier essentially a supergenius. This is possible by the end of the century, and by this point, no decline in global IQ or societal upheaval can really stop it. It’s much wiser to focus on that than on harebrained schemes that are impossible to implement.

Diler of Hosts ✠reply to #54
#70

I laid out there possibly the most efficient method towards conventional eugenics, one that shows tremendous gains in the shortest spans without causing aging or over/de population. I was not exactly considering viruses that make you have genius children. But before we’re there, our best bet is on the one hand to wipe out tropical (and certain subtropical) races, and on the other to implement male-biased differential breeding within high IQ populations. both of them conventional and traditional methods.

which was contingent not on them being bigger and stronger, but instead having technological and logistical superiority

yeah, why do you think I would disagree with that

SSeaBlue
#117

I do believe without actually checking this yet; that even without special eugenics policies, if you were to simply remove low IQ races (White passing brownoids) from the sample for our current intelligence data, the national IQ of North America would go up by an order of magnitude. I’m not sure where I’d go to find the datasets to verify just how high it would jump.

KYKill yourself
#128

At the end of the day, the only friction against eugenics is niceness. ~ 😭🇮🇳

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