Taste is the greatest filter we have

Unfortunately you seem to have taken “culture” to mean “entertainment”, which is not what it means in sociobiology. Partially my fault, because I know the word is junk and has a hundred definitions, I just find it easier to use since people react like I insulted them if I don’t use it. Culture means memetics here which means the set of information that effects human behavior. I guess entertainment can transmit some such information, though. Maybe I’ll make a separate media forum for movies, anime, video games, etc.

And my favourite film of all time is Scorpio Rising. My favourite film of the 2020s is ‘28 Years Later’.

Never seen these but I guess I will now. The first one looks a bit pretentious but at least it’s short.

It is nested theory of mind. It is very hard unless you are habituated to thinking about the inner lives of others. If you can do this, mentally you can do anything.

This doesn’t seem like a very hard skill, it’s maybe unlocked around 100 IQ points. Below that people tend to get into measurable cognitive empathy deficits that results in failing the Breakfast Question and so on. People who can verbally think about whether Stacey would be be happy, sad, scared, or mad if she got assaulted by a black guy at 3 AM cannot “do anything” mentally.

The Classics used to make a man. You don’t need them, but you need the lesson they were used for.

HBD is the science of the classics. It makes them outdated. I appreciate how they are elitist and hereditarian in spirit though.

I suggest you rename this the ‘mimetics’ subforum.

Don’t watch Scorpio Rising. I don’t think it’s for you. 28 Years Later I’d be interested in your thoughts though.

And the suggestion that this is about happy, sad, or scared reactions to immediate circumstances is exactly why I pose the filter.

HBD is the science of the classics, but they successfully organised society around eugenics and race cultivation while we have not. Clearly they not only had everything men need to measure themselves, they were better at it. As always, HBD seeks legalistic arguments to rationalise and moralise the judgements of our lying eyes to people with no interest in listening to you.

Maybe if you could read a whole man you would be better at presenting your case to people, in addition to forming a better one.

Consider this a question of mimetics. I am talking about a classical understanding of the humanities. A coherent field of education that used to be taught to large numbers of people on relatively standardised programs. It created certain kinds of men, maintained a certain view of the world, and the world changed when we lost it.

I am going to upset you now. It is undeniable that people with a vestigial appreciation of and education in the classics wield and outsized influence online in right wing and anti-leftist politics and cultural spheres. They are far more effective operators in making what are fundamentally the same class of argument for society which you seek to. They are far better at attaining power and influence.

You can be as mad as you want about it, but Costin Alimariu and Curtis Yarvin are eugenecist anti-leftists who want civilisation re-ordered around the pursuit of human excellence. They did not get here with IQ science, though I’m sure they’re both also familiar with the fundamentals.

Their biases and standards are informed by their classical educations and study of history.

And I don’t think their power is owed to unvirtuous wordcel manipulation games. I believe that they have a more compelling and coherent vision of the future because a study of people rather than abstractions creates richer ideas on what is to be done. HBD is a tool, not an end. If one tries to draw a logical conclusion on how to run the world from your postings one might conclude that the destiny of the human race is to become some kind of Von Neumann Machine turning all matter in the universe into studies demonstrating our capacity to generate studies on how high we have made our IQs.

This is the other half of the culture question. What would you do with elevated human material? In what direction do you seek to push the human race?

Leon Voss. What is best in life?

It created certain kinds of men, maintained a certain view of the world, and the world changed when we lost it.

Thin evidence for causation there. Most of it is probably men changed, and stopped studying classics as a consequence.

You can be as mad as you want about it, but Costin Alimariu and Curtis Yarvin are eugenecist anti-leftists who want civilisation re-ordered around the pursuit of human excellence.

BAP kinda is, Moldbug is really not. At least he’s anti-democracy. They get bigger audiences because they try to pander to the masses, while I try to do things that are interesting to me. I don’t care about pandering because I don’t care about audience size.

If one tries to draw a logical conclusion on how to run the world from your postings one might conclude that the destiny of the human race is to become some kind of Von Neumann Machine turning all matter in the universe into studies demonstrating our capacity to generate studies on how high we have made our IQs.

I want a startup-polis founded on eugenics that breeds a race of Übermensch. I have written about this before.

This is the other half of the culture question. What would you do with elevated human material? In what direction do you seek to push the human race?

Make it reproduce more. They decide what they want to do because they will be better than me in every way.

“Probably” men changed. Thanks ‘Leon’. That’s great. All of my knowledge of historic institutional capture, deliberate severance of traditions and industries, clear transition points in culture that track 1-1 to social engineering efforts, no it’s “probably” Mutation Load that made the English forget 2000+ years of cultural inheritance within a generation. The same generation in which meritocratic education and classics programs were closed by activists specifically to suppress elite cultivation.

And Moldbug is clearly self-hating about his Jewish heritage and is all but a white supremacist. He baptised his son Christian. Or should I say, BAPtised? His idea of human excellence is a conscious rejection of Jewish life denial and pursuit of technique. By Hitler’s definition Elon Musk is 1000000x more “Jewish” than Moldbug.

And Moldbug does not really pander to masses. He alienates people with poetry readings and idiosyncratic reads and approaches that frustrate people which he clearly is too fond of to give up. I think he’s largely doing it for fun. He will make us all read about “elves” because he is genuinely fond of the thought.

Costin plays PR games now, but he’s still the same person he was when he posted on forums. I think largely the issue is simply that, like me, he doesn’t really want to be mean and tell anybody who’s an earnest fan to fuck off. I have never seen them pander or fish for attention like I have you. Your thuletide ripoff teenage anime-wife tweeting spree was the most shameless run of attention whoring I have ever seen online.

And “the ubermensch will decide what they want” is a very weak answer. And one which has been reached before. Moldbug’s hero Carlyle said that humanity’s purpose is to create and facilitate the lives of Great Men.

But Carlyle still believed in a coherent notion of worthwhile human existence, which Moldbug shares. Great Men being exemplars and outliers.

I have an accusation, which you are free to try and refute. That this position of yours is a reflection of an extraordinary shallowness of thought and incapacity to reflect upon the human condition, rather than a faith in biology.

All of your “knowledge” but you can’t formulate a casual argument? You just assert and reassert your claims as if they are self evident.

How is something that loses a person followers and eventually gets them banned after they insist on their position “attention whoring”?

What would you have elevated human material do? Make films about homosexual bikers, like Scorpio Rising? Or maybe they should only consume such films?

It is very hard unless you are habituated to thinking about the inner lives of others. If you can do this, mentally you can do anything.

Lmfao. Having opinions on movies isnt impressive actually.